Dialogue 2 - Brockwood Park,England - 25 June 1983
Is there, or can there be, in the human brain a space without end, an eternity out of time?
The mind is a wholly different dimension which has no contact with thought. The brain, that part of the brain which has been functioning as an instrument of thought, that brain has been conditioned. As long as that part of the brain remains in that state there is no communication with the mind.
Insight is possible only when there is cessation of thought and time.
If there is a verbal sound, I am not listening, I am only understanding the words. But you want to convey to me something much more than the words.
The psyche is a bundle of memories and those memories are dead. They operate, they function, but they are the outcome of past experience, which is gone. I am a movement of memories. If I have an insight into that, I am nothing, there is nothing. I don’t exist.
The ending of the movement which is the psyche, which is time-thought, the ending of that is to be nothing. Nothing then contains the whole universe – not my petty little fears, anxieties, problems, sorrow. After all, nothing means the entire world of compassion.
Series title: Conversations with Pupul Jayakar
Video Duration: 66 minutes
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